obama in that he wants to be able to sink some teeth into it and make sure that there is border security that is, that you can trust and verify it does exist before moving on. bill: kelly, as you're talking there, senator cornyn is live by the way. we expect rand paul to be next. that's why that is on the screen. right now there are 11 mill illegals in the u.s. today. how would senator paul handle that? >> reporter: well, his position could give a boost to a bipartisan group of eight senators who are seeking ways to overhaul immigration reform. here is what senator proposes. you believes you have to move forward first acknowledging the united states is not going to deport those 11 million illegal immigrants. that is position as you know will frustrate some of his tea party supporters who are adamant that illegal citizens must be sent back to their native country before reentering this country. senator paul tells fox news, what congress annually for five years making sure that the borders are secure, then providing temporary work visas they can make a pathway towards citizenship. bill: ke